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Oct. 16th, 2007 10:35 am
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I've just changed the sub-name of my journal again. This time to "Gay Mormon Flight Attendant" which is how one of the people on the current Survivor was introduced at the start of the season. No spoilers in comments, please. We're still catching up and have only watched the first two episodes.

My love of Survivor goes beyond reason. Not that it isn't brilliant and savage and all that life should be; but I get, like, giddy watching it and breathless anticipating it.

Date: 2007-10-16 04:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ginalin.livejournal.com
Living in Mormon Central it is interesting that there's a whole gay Mormon subculture that is on the downlow.

It was more or less delved into on a very interesting documentary about Mormonism on PBS.

They interviewed a lot of people who were both thrilled with Mormonism and those who had been excommunicated for various reasons.

I guess from what was said that the most common reason to be excommunicated is being a woman who teaches anything that smacks of feminism and being openly gay.

Date: 2007-10-16 04:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] talktooloose.livejournal.com
Yeah, I think this nick won't last long but it was striking to me that the survivor was tagged like that upfront. So many shifting cultural referrers!

So, were you excommunicated when you became a funky pro-gay, feminist sex educator? Or did you leave on your own steam?

Date: 2007-10-16 04:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ginalin.livejournal.com
I was never LDS, but I grew up around it. But, some of my mother's family is. My grandmother renounced it pretty openly as an adult. Her mother, my great-grandmother was devout, but it didn't take with my grandmother. One of my grandmother's sisters stuck with it and had 16 kids, though.

No, my parents were agnostic until I was a teenager, and then they became Jehovah's Witnesses (although they aren't very active in it now).

I had some involvement with that in my teens and then became inactive, which I still am. I have a few JW friends still that I have an pretty amicable relationship with, but I was very bad at trying to be a Jehovah's Witness. *G* They still try to get me involved from time to time, but it makes me feel uneasy in some ways so I just keep things neutral.

The JW lifestyle is sort of a combination of being Mennonite and Orthodox Jewish and Quaker.I had a friend who was raised Mennonite and we used to have long discussions about how similar it was in many ways.
Generally they're very nice down to earth people who keep to their own communities except for their very public evangelizing, but I'm sure they seem pretty odd to outsiders in some ways, rather like those other two groups I mentioned.

I've never had anything much against religion in general except when it gets dangerous and demeaning to people. I think it's just part of the irrationality of being human to have these kinds of beliefs.
I can be pretty superstitious and irrational myself at times, so I allow other people their own brand of that too, as long as they don't force it on others or harm people with it.


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